I thought she died few weeks ago. Lived into her 80's?
G.
chaos spread across much of north america last week at news that pauline phillips, author of the dear abby advice column was suffering from alzheimers disease.
pauline phillips began writing the column in 1955, after her sister who wrote as ann landers began writing for the chicago sun.
while spokesmen for the aging advice columnist insisted that mrs phillips was in fine physical condition and in good spirits, the growing buzz in newspaper circles is that all is not well in the advice empire.
I thought she died few weeks ago. Lived into her 80's?
G.
many of you have felt at the sharp end, quite particularly so, social exclusion.
emotionally, how did it make you feel?
celtic mark - cornwall uk
Even as a youngster growing up in that filthy religion I never felt as though I fit in anywhere. School was a joke; pretty much thought I was seriously retarded. I came to realize over the recovering years that indeed I was "socially retarded," my description anyhow. Stunted would be a nicer term these days.
After 32 years "out", the other day I broke down and cried because it dawned on me that it's a very difficult thing understanding unconditional love...as my husband displays towards me. Took me by surprise when I broke down and had to admit after all these years, the damage done was real and perhaps lasting. The mind tells me it's ok...I've laid alot of issues too rest, but every now and then the old demons come haunting.
It's no surprise to many of us why we never had children, or perhaps that only child, such as I did. A son that has had his share of problems. Although he went to live with his dad at age 12, the year I would find recovery, I tell him over and over how proud I am of him. (He was born in the infamous year 1975). There is so much love between us now, especially with him having children that I do my best to spoil :) and will hopefully never know the anguish of being JW. I do tend to ramble at times.
Guess I want to say that there is nothing my son cannot tell me. I would not/could not shun him. And I knew I'd come a long way when we had some serious issues to deal with a year ago and I didn't fall apart; neither did I have a need to shame and belittle him.
Those were key elements I was forced to look at. Never being good enough, never fitting in with the 'in-crowd, etc. Actually apologizing to outsiders about not judging JW's by my behavior since I was df. That's so ridiculous now thinking back. But sure felt responsible to keep that 'clean' image alive. Some are sicker then others...I was one of the sicker one's, but find humor has helped.
Today I'm more of a loner than not. But it's by choice. My greatest joy are the grandchildren. I'm learning what unconditional love is. And it certainly goes contrary to anything preached by JW's.
Granny, who probably got longwinded and side tracked.
ran into some jws today.
was out to lunch at a restaurant with 2 of my kids.
there were 2 tables full of jws, i wondered what the occasion was.
No shit, what arrogance!!!! The more I read, the more pissed I get. Who in the hell do these people really think they are?...I already know the answer to that.
Well I'm certainly glad that your hubby stood in the doorway...sound like some that need that swift kick in the ass. I really do despise those pricks. That would include any of my own family members, too. Sick, Sick, people!!!!!!
While I'm at it, when I heard through the family grapevine years ago how my neice, aged 13 at the time, had been molested by a "brother" that literally climbed through her bedroom window.....and after reading the horror stories on these forums; I think my elder brother-in- law, and my sister are spinless wimps.
Granny, who is so pissed I could really get on a rant. Come on you JW's. PLEASE knock at my door.
hello my husband robinhood had been posting our story here and will continue soon!
however, something happened this week that brought out the anger and rage against the jw's with me and i really need to vent.
i guess i got a good look at how the borg is treating the people of sherwood.
This story just sickens me, too. And although you stated "it is not about me," how can one not be affected, eh.
I'd not really had any major jw issues for years...although I cannot say that the emotional hangover took many years in overcoming. Last year when an older inactive jw sibling told me how she was "having problems with the truth," not stating any specifics, I took it upon myself to do some research. What I read often times brought tears and anger. Just had no idea that things were as bad as they are. I've been "out" for 32 years, resolved the shunning thing and ignored my jw family just like they 'shun' me.
When this sibling writes and tells me how she doesn't care whether she lives or dies, knowing throughout the years she has suffered major depression and is known to me mentally unstable - hell, her own kids want little to do with her...I sat on that e-mail for a couple days before answering. Oh, she never acknowledged packages of information sent to her, but that's ok.
Just sitting here shaking my head in disgust! and knowing all the stronger that those filthy people will never, as long as I live, have access to my grandchildren. I would fight too the death protecting them from the likes of such stupidity and evildoers. I have NO respect for any jw; don't much care that my immediate family remains as such either. Everyone made their choice long time ago. We are no longer children that are forced into something detestable...if they choose too remain in a cult, so be it. They just no longer hold power over me...and I simply tell the truth to the world as opportunity presents. The actions of jw's speaks for itself. Let the listener use discernment.
Thank goodness your friend has the two of you! And the support of those who have journed before.
Remind your friend that many here offer our sincere concern and love. There is healing. There is HOPE. I know, there was many a day when death seemed more inviting then living amongst a bunch of complete idiots that really believe themselves superior! Even after all these years the whole scenerio can piss me off again.
Thanks for sharing this story...and don't be a stranger.
Love,
Granny Linda
the following article is lengthy so i highlighted the "intersting" parts.
feel free to just read the highlights.. also, i added some commentary at the end.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/a43828-2002aug4.html.
housing vouchers no magic key .
These stories reminded me of how my mom had one dress for summer and another for winter. She had this wonderful wardrobe for 3 consecutive years. Yeap, things were pretty tough for us when I was growing up as a JW.
Whilst living in Selma I had opportunity to go for a job interview, and the lady hiring was 3rd generation JW. I declined the job, but did find out that she was in need of what my husband and I were hoping to establish...a community center that provided clothing, etc. In the end I told her that the very people she abhor's (nonJW churches), are the very one's that are helping moreso in any community.
Too, I remember as a young JW if not for an older lady in the congregation there would have been plenty of times our family would not have eaten. She was like a grandmother to us, and a good friend to my mother. I think those stories are rare indeed. If not for the wordly' single parent families that shared a pot of food and whatever else, things would have seemed even worse. Guess that's why I'm for the underdog most times. That is unless they are known alcoholics, drug addicts, gamblers who refuse help with their addication. JW's taught me well how to walk away. But the children in those situations...that's another story.
Granny
the following article is lengthy so i highlighted the "intersting" parts.
feel free to just read the highlights.. also, i added some commentary at the end.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/a43828-2002aug4.html.
housing vouchers no magic key .
My info did not come up as usual so just making a test post before writing.
oh yeah , the can shall be opened very soon.. we were ratted on for smoking at the dance club a few weeks ago, the dub that did it told our elders and we just said to hell with it all, we don't beleive it is the "truth" anymore and want to disassociate ourselves.
we told the elders that smoking was not the problem, the borg was, the lies, the child abuse, the cover ups, the changes etc.
in fact i dont even smoke now.
Wild Turkey, you made me laugh and not many people can do that most days. There just are some idiots who do need a good ass kicking, but make sure there are no witnesses. :) Then again, he's probably not worth the legal entanglements....of well. But that camera idea....hummmm.
Granny, who's former husband was nicknamed "Animal." His favorite drink, Wild Turkey.
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i don't post often but i want to share my fantastic news,i have become a granny for the 4th time,my 1st granddaughter was born today 6th,she is so beautiful.
i am so blessed and i thank god for this beautiful angel that has graced our family.to each and everyone love and protect these wonderful beings they are so precious.thanks for listening to an old granny (well not that old really).. qca1
How wonderful!!!!!
I've got 3 beautiful and funny grandchildren. They are my joy, my heart's delight. They certainly are precious, all our children. I just "adopted" a young former JW who is expecting her first very soon. Although we have a long distance relationship, it has given all of us great enjoyment. No shunning from these grandparents. Kids just can't have to many grandparents, aunts, uncles, counsins...
Now ya got me too thinking it's time to check in with the little buggers.
CONGRATULATIONS, one and all.
Granny
ever since leaving the borg i've had the pleasure of behind involved in several protest marches and demonstrations.
being in nyc presents many causes to speak out against.
many folks outside of nyc may love/like rudy g, the formal mayor/dictator of the city, but he was the subject of many protest rallies while he served for two terms.
Hi, Larry.
Not to the extent that many others may have. What I did do was begin listening and researching. I'm also one of those many deem nutty for my lack of trust in any wordly govenment... or heavenly, for that matter.
My political interest was greatly enhanced immediately following the Ruby Ridge incident. I was fortunate to hear Jack McLamb share his personal experience of having been in on the negotations with Bo Gritz. Just a few months after that of course came Waco.
My husband and I did attend the Bridge Crossing in Selma during our two year stay there. It was quite interesting. Our one friend was a deacon in one of the older churches that MLK had spoken from, and had been as a young lad, eye witness to Bloody Sunday.
Generally politics is one of my favorite subjects. My husband is retired after 22 years in the military and things are certainly not what the powers that be would have us believe. It's not about loving this country or else type mentality...I believe it's about an evil that pits us against one another and silences those who would speak out against the abuses suffered at the hands of such evilness.
Guess what I'm trying to say is that I choose my battles carefully. What is one persons cup of tea might not be another's. Seen and heard to many hyprocrites that when the shit hits the fan, they turn on each other in order to spare their own arse. I'd best sign off here.
Granny
yep , it will happen next monday morning at 8:30 am.
all of my children will be attending their very first day of school, jake is 15, kelly is 9 and chance is 7. they are so excited about getting school supplies , backpacks, i almost said bookbags, lol , for the first time.
my daughter said this is her dream come true.
How wonderful for your family!
Take LOTS of pictures, and keep us posted.
Granny